Green Slime

With the natural disasters of hurricanes Harvey and Irma, we have once again seen the unlimited capacity of politicians and their funding-hungry toadies (climate scientists), and of mainstream media and business persons……to use the misfortunes of others to promote political agendas, and to sell advertising space and product.

There’s no reason for me to cite examples. They’re everywhere.  Be my guest and add some to the comments.

Still on holiday.



About Bob Tisdale

Research interest: the long-term aftereffects of El Niño and La Nina events on global sea surface temperature and ocean heat content. Author of the ebook Who Turned on the Heat? and regular contributor at WattsUpWithThat.
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17 Responses to Green Slime

  1. Andrew Hamilton says:


    It’s great to hear even a few words from you. I hope you’re very well and enjoying life.

    I really miss your articles on sea surface temperatures and all the rest.

    I’m not going to mention any of the hurricane nonsense, because the people broadcasting the misinformation are not scientific. Even the ones that are practising Scientists are not scientific about this subject. It just gets my blood boiling at the abuse of science that is going on today.

    God bless you and keep you.


  2. Pamela Gray says:

    Here is a nice befuddled official “confidence” filled sciency piece that completely avoids the notion of statistical significance, and instead focuses on climate models, none of which are identified in detail. It is meant to sway the public into “coulda woulda shoulda” beliefs about current AGW. The funny part is, and I paraphrase, while it says there is projected to be fewer such events overall globally, we will all die in larger numbers anyway. I crown that conclusion as the one worthy of some kind of gag award.

    Please, we can’t drain the deep throated NOAA soon enough.

  3. Dave Fair says:

    At last! I’ve missed you greatly, Bob. Please don’t stay away in the future.

    Pamela’s cited NOAA sales job says it all here: “Owing to the large interannual to decadal variability of SST and hurricane activity in the basin, Bender et al (2010) estimate that detection of this projected anthropogenic influence on hurricanes should not be expected for a number of decades. While there is a large rising trend since the mid 1940’s in category 4-5 numbers in the Atlantic, our view is that these data are not reliable for trend calculations, until they have been further assessed for data homogeneity problems, such as those due to changing observing practices.” [Even they had to print “… detection of this projected anthropogenic influence on hurricanes should not be expected for a number of decades.” in bold face type.]

    It’s models all the way down.

  4. Janice Moore says:

    Amen, Bob. The mostly wildly inaccurate news reporting (through half-truths, omissions of key facts of context, and gross exaggeration) boils down to one thing: money.

    Exploiting human fear to make a buck.


    Great to see you post. 🙂

  5. Keitho says:

    Don’t tease us Robert. You have been away too long and we miss your well researched and reasoned contributions to the great climate debate. Take pity and pick up the cudgels once more for all our sakes.

  6. eastvns says:


    This USGS report on mega flood seasons from Pacific ocean temperature and jet stream changes missed most media notice, but you might find the periodicity of interest.

    ARkStorm Scenario reports:

    “Winter storms of 1861-1862.
    Beginning in early December 1861 and continuing into early 1862, an extreme
    series of storms lasting 45 days struck
    California. The storms caused severe
    flooding, turning the Sacramento Valley
    into an inland sea, forcing the state
    capitol to be moved temporarily from Sacramento to San Francisco, and requiring Governor Leland Stanford to
    take a rowboat to his inauguration.
    [B]William Brewer, author of “Up and down California,” wrote on January 19,
    1862, “The great central valley of the state is under water-the Sacramento
    and San Joaquin valleys-a region 250 to
    300 miles long and an average of at
    least twenty miles wide, or probably three to three and a half millions of
    acres!”[/B] The 1861-62 series of storms were the largest and longest California storms in the historic record, but were
    probably not the worst California has experienced. Geological evidence
    indicates that floods that occurred
    before Europeans arrived were bigger.”

    The money quote is below:

    “Scientists looking at the thickness of sediment layers collected offshore in the Santa Barbara and
    San Francisco Bay areas have found geologic evidence of megastorms that occurred in the years 212, 440, 603, 1029, 1418, and 1605, coinciding with climatological events that were happening elsewhere in the world. There is no scientific evidence to suggest that such extreme storms could not happen again.”

    The statistical median is about every 242 years, but the shortest period between mega storm season events was only 163 years (or a soon as 2025).

    When you next pass through the former shared stomping grounds, visit and we can scare up a good seafood bar (but maybe not as good of a redhead bartender as we remember). Send me an email.

  7. richard verney says:


    Good to see you posting again.

    If you have time, it would be good to see a post of the SST for the Gulf/ the path of these hurricanes to see how SST has changed these past 20 or 30 years.

    I note that your SST North Atlantic and SST South Atlantic plots do not show any significant recent warming, but something more specific would be appreciated.

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  13. Caleb says:

    Glad to see this brief post. (Silence does activate my ability to worry that something might be wrong.)

    Though I do miss your keen powers of observation, I don’t blame you one bit for turning your attention elsewhere. After all, working at this blog 2008-2016 certainly does suggest you have paid your dues.

    I’ve noticed I’m posting less about sea-ice, partly because I get tired of saying the same thing over and over. Some insist upon a sort of deafness. This also applies to hurricanes. How many times can one point out historical events which demonstrate “there is nothing new under the sun except the history you haven’t studied.” ??? One can be patient at first, but after a hundred times I think our souls just plain rebel.

    I summarized the foolishness of hurricane hype back in 2012 with a WUWT post:

    I had fun writing that post, but having to say the same thing over and over and over again takes the fun out if it. After a while I feel I am both preaching to the choir and preaching to the deaf.

    It is better to turn attention to what fills us with joy. Here’s hoping your wonderful powers of observation find wonderful things to observe!

  14. Keitho says:

    That’s how they win Caleb. They just grind us down with their motivated deaf ignorance. Then we shrug and say “sod this for a game of soldiers” and move off into more rewarding pastures.

    It doesn’t make them right or us wrong. I just keep on making my small noises and waiting for reality to become such as they can’t ignore it. It is tough though with such a well funded industry burning through our money in subsidies.


    Oh well back to my little shell scrape, and thanks for all the effort you two have put into the quest for reality.

  15. Caleb says:

    It seems to me the Alarmists are digging a hole for themselves that just gets deeper and deeper. Like a tantrumming child they create their own punishment.

    I have more faith in the general public than some, and feel that eventually Alarmists will turn off so many people that people will turn to the “more rewarding pastures”, which we hopefully will be blogging about

  16. Frederik says:

    hurricane ophelia is going to strike Ireland. is the new hype here in europe. just forget it’s going to become extratropical first 🙂

  17. Acidohm says:

    The use of the the word ‘unprecedented’ during the hurricane season, but definitely not exclusive to this period, or subject… in my humble opinion, completely unprecedented.

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