Final – The 2014/15 El Niño – Part 22 – January 2015 Update – You Make the Forecasts for the 2015/16 Season


This is the final post in The 2014/15 El Niño series.  It began back in April 2014 when many people were expecting a strong El Niño due to the magnitude of the downwelling (warm) Kelvin wave. But the development of the El Niño floundered because it was missing something very important:  additional westerly wind bursts to help push additional warm water from the west to the east along the equatorial Pacific.  As a result, there was a general warming of the tropical Pacific in 2014, comparable to a moderate El Niño, as the warm water from the downwelling Kelvin wave rose to the surface. But the warming didn’t initially occur in the east-central portion (NINO3.4 region) of the equatorial Pacific.  It wasn’t until the secondary downwelling (warm) Kelvin waves reached the eastern equatorial Pacific later in 2014 that the surface of the NINO3.4 region warmed to El Niño conditions…and continued to stay there.

Something else happened that might be considered unusual. A pocket of warm water from the initial Kelvin wave was diverted from the Pacific equatorial undercurrent (Cromwell Current) to the south, just east of the dateline.  That pocket of warm water migrated west and then fed back to the equator, where it supplied additional warm water for secondary Kelvin waves in 2014.

El Niño conditions may or may not have existed for much of 2014, depending on the metric used to define an El Niño:

  • According to the Japan Meteorological Agency (JMA), El Niño conditions have existed since the boreal summer 2014. The JMA based their findings on NINO3 region sea surface temperatures.
  • Based on NINO3.4 region sea surface temperature anomalies (used by NOAA for defining El Niño conditions in their Oceanic Nino Index) the equatorial Pacific fluctuated in and out of El Niño conditions (NINO3.4 SSTa equal to or greater than +0.5 deg C) until the week of October 15. They have remained in El Niño conditions since then, but they’ve recently cooled back to the threshold of an El Niño…and might drop to ENSO neutral conditions again soon. See Figures 1 and 2.
  • The Southern Oscillation Index is used by Australia’s Bureau of Meteorology (BOM) to define El Niño conditions. El Niño conditions (an SOI value of -8.0 or lower) existed from August to November 2014, according to the SOI.
  • Based on NOAA’s unofficial Multivariate ENSO Index, El Niño conditions existed from the bimonth of April/May to July/August, and they’ve returned for the bimonths of October/November and November/December.

And, as noted earlier, based on the sea surface temperatures for the entire tropical Pacific, a moderate El Niño would appear to have been taking place since boreal summer. See Figure 00.

00 Trop Pac SSTa and Evolution

Figure 00

The warming of the tropical Pacific in response to the El Niño processes contributed to the elevated global sea surface temperatures in 2014, but they were not the primary cause.  The primary cause was the unusual weather event in the eastern extratropical North Pacific. See the post Did ENSO and the “Monster” Kelvin Wave Contribute to the Record High Global Sea Surface Temperatures in 2014?

Back to the regular El Niño update:


This post provides an update on the progress of the evolution of the 2014/15 El Niño conditions. The post is similar in layout to the earlier updates. (See the entire 2014/15 El Niño series of posts here.) Please click on the illustrations and animations to enlarge them.

As you’ll note, much of the text is boiler plate. New discussions are preceded by a boldfaced Update.  I’ve also added a “Your ENSO Predictions for the 2015/16 Season” heading at the end of the post to prompt the discussion of what conditions you believe will inhabit the tropical Pacific for the 2015/16 season: El Niño, ENSO Neutral or La Niña.

Included are updates of the weekly sea surface temperature anomalies for the four most-often-used NINO regions. Also included are updates of the GODAS map-based animations of sea surface height anomalies, T300 anomalies (depth-averaged temperature anomalies to 300 meters), sea surface temperature anomalies, and the cross sections of temperature anomalies at depth along the equator. These animations start in January 2014 for the full progress of this year’s event(s). Also included are a couple of graphs of the BOM Southern-Oscillation Index (SOI) and a discussion of the NOAA Multivariate ENSO Index (MEI).

We compared data for the evolution of the 2014/15 El Niño to the 1982/83 and 1997/98 El Niños in a number of posts early in this series, back when this El Niño was being compared to those two strong events in new reports.  More recently, we changed the reference El Niños for the evolution comparisons to the 2002/03 and 2009/10 El Niños. These reference El Niños are likely stronger than what we might expect in the next few months, but they are far weaker than the ones we used earlier this year.

And since we’ve been watching the downwelling (warm) Kelvin wave as it makes its way east along the equator in the Pacific, also included in this post are evolution comparisons using warm water volume anomalies and depth-averaged temperature anomalies from the NOAA TOA project website.

Then, we’ll take a look at a number of Hovmoller diagrams comparing the progress so far this year to what happened in both 2002 and 2009.


Note: The NOAA NOMADS website is still off-line, so I used the weekly NINO region sea surface temperature anomaly data for Figures 1 and 2 from the NOAA/CPC Monthly Atmospheric & SST Indices webpage, specifically the data here.  The data from NOAA NOMADS was provided with oodles of significant figures, while the NOAA/CPC data are provided in tenths of a degree C. The base years for anomalies through NOMADS were 1971-2000, while the NOAA/CPC data are referenced to 1981-2010. So, along with the changes to the reference El Niños, that explains why the graphs are a little different than what you’re used to seeing.

Figure 1 includes the weekly sea surface temperature anomalies of the 4 most-often-used NINO regions of the equatorial Pacific. From west to east they include:

  • NINO4 (5S-5N, 160E-150W)
  • NINO3.4 (5S-5N, 170W-120W)
  • NINO3 (5S-5N, 150W-90W)
  • NINO1+2 (10S-0, 90W-80W)

Update: Of the four regions, the NINO3.4 region sea surface temperatures are the most commonly referenced.  They are used for the NOAA Oceanic NINO Index, which NOAA uses to identify “official” El Niño and La Niña event.  As of last week, NINO3.4 region sea surface temperature anomalies had dropped back down to the threshold of El Niño conditions and might cool more. NINO3 and NINO4 region temperature anomalies remain slightly higher than the NINO3.4 region.  NINO1+2 region surface temperatures had been elevated for about 6 months, ever since the first downwelling Kelvin wave reached the coast of South America, but they have continued their long-term decline since boreal summer and they are now at 0.0 deg C.

01 Weekly NINO Region SSTa

Figure 1

Note that the horizontal red lines in the graphs are the current readings, not the trends.


Using weekly sea surface temperature anomalies for the four NINO regions, Figure 2 compares the goings on this year with the 2002/03 and 2009/10 events.

02 Weekly NINO Region SSTa Evolution

Figure 2


Update:  The animations have grown long, so I’ve sped them up. Because they’re so long, I’ve linked them instead of posting them

In the first post in this series, we discussed a number of animations of maps and animations of equatorial cross sections that are available from the NOAA Global Ocean Data Assimilation System (GODAS) website.  Each cell of the animation is a 5-day (pentadal) average. Those animations ran from January 3rd to March 29th. The following are updates, again starting in January 3rd.  GODAS only maintains their animations for 3 months.  I’ve stored the maps since the first of the year and have continued to add maps as time progresses.

Animation 1 provides the sea surface height anomalies and the depth-averaged temperature anomalies for the top 300 meters (T300) side by side.

CLICK HERE for Animation 1

Animation 2 is a similar side-by-side comparison, but on the left are maps of sea surface temperature anomalies and on the right are the T300 maps. My apologies for the shift in the color scaling for the range of +0.5 to +1.0 deg C in the sea surface temperature anomaly maps.  That appears to be a quirk in my computer, not the GODAS website.

CLICK HERE for Animation 2

Animation 3 is an update of the cross sections of temperature anomalies at depth along the equator.

CLICK HERE for Animation 3


We first discussed the NOAA Multivariate ENSO Index in this series in the post The 2014/15 El Niño – Part 19 – Is an El Niño Already Taking Place?  I’ve borrowed the preliminary discussion there and expanded on it.

The Multivariate ENSO Index (MEI) is another ENSO index published by NOAA.  It was created and is maintained by NOAA’s Klaus Wolter.  The Multivariate ENSO Index uses the sea surface temperatures of the NINO3 region of the equatorial Pacific, along with a slew of atmospheric variables…thus “multivariate”.

El Niño and La Niña rankings according to the MEI aren’t based on fixed threshold values such as +0.5 for El Niño and -0.5 for La Niña.  The MEI El Niño and La Niña rankings are based on percentiles, top 30% for the weak to strong El Niños and the bottom 30% for the weak to strong La Niñas.   This is difficult to track, because, when using the percentile method, the thresholds of El Niño and La Niña conditions vary from one bimonthly period to the next, and they can change from year to year. See the discussion of the MEI in the November update for further information.

Update: The Multivariate ENSO Index update discussion and data for November/December have been posted.  Figure 3 presents a graph of the MEI time series starting in Dec/Jan 1979.  And Figure 4 compares the evolution this year to the reference El Niño-formation years of 2002 and 2009.

03 MEI

Figure 3

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04 MEI Evolution

Figure 4


The NOAA Tropical Atmosphere-Ocean (TAO) Project website includes data for two temperature-related datasets for the equatorial Pacific.  See their Upper Ocean Heat Content and ENSO webpage for descriptions of the datasets.   The two datasets are Warm Water Volume (above the 20 deg C isotherm) and the Depth-Averaged Temperatures for the top 300 meters (aka T300).  Both are available for the:

  • Western Equatorial Pacific (5S-5N, 120E-155W)
  • Eastern Equatorial Pacific (5S-5N, 155W-80W)
  • Total Equatorial Pacific (5S-5N, 120E-80W)

Keep in mind that the longitudes of 120E-80W stretch 160 deg, almost halfway around the globe. For a reminder of width of the equatorial Pacific, see the protractor-based illustration here.

In the following three graphs, we’re comparing data for the evolution of the 2014/15 El Niño so far (through the end of December 2014) with the data for the evolutions of the 2002/03 and 2009/10 El Niños. The Warm Water Volume data are the top graphs and the depth-averaged temperature data are the bottom graphs.  As you’ll see, the curves of two datasets are similar, but not necessarily the same.

Let’s start with the Western Equatorial Pacific (5S-5N, 120E-155W), Figure 5. The warm water volume and depth-averaged temperature data show the Western Equatorial Pacific had slightly less warm water or was slightly cooler this year than during the opening months of 2009. But 2014 had more warm water or was warmer than 2002.  For 2014, the warm water volume and temperature to depth in the west dropped as the initial Kelvin wave this year carried some water east, but it has since rebounded.  Recall, some of the warm water from the initial downwelling Kelvin wave has already returned to the west.

05 Western WWV and T300

Figure 5

Update: As a result, the conditions in the western equatorial Pacific continue to be warmer than they had been during the reference El Niños, but the warm water volume and depth-averaged temperature (T300) in the western equatorial Pacific are much lower now than they were at the beginning of the year.

Moving on to the eastern equatorial Pacific:  During those 2002/03 and 2009/10 El Niños, the warm water had traveled east by now. We can see that in the warm water volume and depth-averaged temperature data for the eastern equatorial Pacific.  This year, early in the year, the eastern equatorial data both rose, a result of the initial Kelvin wave carrying warm water from the West Pacific Warm Pool to the east.  Part of the warm water had been consumed—released to the atmosphere through evaporation, or distributed away from the equator, or returned to the west—by mid-year, but then the warm water fed back to the equatorial Pacific mid-year and was carried eastward.

06 Eastern WWV and T300

Figure 6

Update: For December, the warm water volume is closer to the values during the evolutions of the 2009/10 El Niño than the 2002/03 El Niño, but the depth-averaged temperature is less in December this year.

Now for the entire equatorial Pacific, Figure 7:

07 Total WWV and T300

Figure 7

Update: For this year, the warm water initially increased across the entire equatorial Pacific, as warm water from off the equator circulated to the equator. Early in the year, the two TAO project indices were above those in 2002 and 2009.  Then the warm water decreased as it rose to the surface and evaporated or was redistributed away from the equator. Currently, the warm water volume is greater than both reference years, and the depth-averaged temperature anomaly above 300 meters is presently comparable to 2009 and ahead of 2002.


The reasons an El Niño did not continue to form this year in response to the Kelvin wave are well established. First, the atmospheric component of ENSO, the “SO” part, refused to cooperate.  That is, the trade winds in the western equatorial Pacific did not weaken as expected to help reinforce the El Niño development. (The other reason, of course, was the upwelling (cool) Kelvin that formed in the wake of the downwelling (warm).  That trailing cool Kelvin wave helped to counteract part of the warm Kelvin wave.)

The Southern Oscillation Index (SOI) from Australia’s Bureau of Meteorology is another widely used reference for the strength, frequency and duration of El Niño and La Niña events.  We discussed the Southern Oscillation Index in Part 8 of this series. It is derived from the sea level pressures of Tahiti and Darwin, Australia, and as such it reflects the wind patterns off the equator in the southern tropical Pacific.  With the Southern Oscillation Index, El Niño events are strong negative values and La Niñas are strong positive values, which is the reverse of what we see with sea surface temperatures.  Figure 8 presents a time-series graph of the SOI data.  Note that the horizontal red line is the October value, not a trend line.

08 Bom SOI

Figure 8

Update: The December 2014 Southern Oscillation Index value is -5.5, which is ENSO-neutral conditions according to the SOI. (The BOM threshold for El Niño conditions is an SOI value of -8.0.)

The graphs in Figure 9 compare the evolution of the SOI values this year to those in 2002 and 2009, the development years of the 2002/03 and 2009/10 El Niños. The top graph shows the raw data. Because the SOI data are so volatile, I’ve smoothed them with a 3-month filter in the bottom graph.

09 SOI Evolution

Figure 9

Update:  The monthly 2014 values as of December are lower than they were in 2002 and 2009, but the 3-month average is comparable to the 2009 conditions.

For those of you interested in keeping a closer eye on the BOM Southern Oscillation Index, see the BOM Recent (preliminary) Southern Oscillation Index (SOI) values webpage.

Update: For the past month, the daily SOI has been very volatile, bouncing in and out of El Niño conditions…more out than in. The 30-day running-averages have been in ENSO neutral conditions for more than a week, while the 90-day average has been at or near the threshold of an El Niño.


In past updates, in the following Hovmoller diagrams, I’ve used the development of the 1997/98 and 1982/83 El Niños as a reference for this year’s El Niño. That now seems to be overkill, because the feedbacks never kicked in this year…where all of the feedbacks freakishly aligned for the 1997/98 El Niño.  The 1982/83 El Niño was a late bloomer; that is, it didn’t really start to take off until later in the year, and it was a very strong El Niño too.

Now, it’s unlikely that the El Niño would be a strong El Niño. So I’ve switched reference years for this post.

Hovmoller diagrams are a great way to display data.  If they’re new to you, there’s no reason to be intimidated by them. Let’s take a look at Figure 10.  It presents the Hovmoller diagrams of thermocline depth anomalies (the depth of the isotherm at 20 deg C.  Water warmer than 20 deg C is above the 20 deg C isotherm and below it the water is cooler). 2014 is in the center, 2002 on the left and 2009 to the right. GODAS, unfortunately, furnishes the illustrations (not the data) in different dimensions for some years. Thus the dimensions of the Hovmoller in the left are larger than the other two.

The vertical (y) axis in all the Hovmollers shown in this post is time with the Januarys at the top and Decembers at the bottom.  The horizontal (x) axis is longitude, so, moving from left to right in each of the three Hovmoller diagrams, we’re going from west to east…with the Indian Ocean in the left-hand portion, the Pacific in the center and the Atlantic in the right-hand portion.  We’re interested in the Pacific. The data are color-coded according to the scales below the Hovmollers.

10 GODAS Hovmoller - Thermocline Depth Anomalies

Figure 10

Figure 10 is presenting the depth of the 20 deg C isotherm along a band from 2S to 2N. The positive anomalies, working their way eastward since the beginning of 2014, were caused by the downwelling Kelvin wave, which pushes down on the thermocline (the 20 deg C isotherm).  You’ll note how the anomalies grew in strength as the Kelvin wave migrated east. That does not mean the Kelvin wave is getting stronger as it traveled east; that simply indicates that the thermocline is normally closer to the surface in the eastern equatorial Pacific than it is in the western portion.  The secondary (and definitely weaker) downwelling Kelvin waves this year are also visible in the center Hovmoller.

Figure 11 presents the 2014-to-date along with the 2002 and 2009 Hovmollers for wind stress (not anomalies) along the equator.   The simplest way to explain them is that they’re presenting the impacts of the strengths and directions of the trade winds on the surfaces of the equatorial oceans. In this presentation, the effects of the east to west trade winds at various strengths are shown in blues, and the reversals of the trade winds into westerlies are shown in yellows, oranges and reds.  To explain the color coding, the trade winds normally blow from east to west.  Stronger than normal trade winds are associated with La Niñas; thus the cooler colors for stronger than normal east to west trade winds. The reversals of the trade winds (the yellows, oranges and reds) are the true abnormalities and they’re associated with El Niños, which are the abnormal state of the tropical Pacific.  (A La Niña is simply an exaggerated normal state.)

11 GODAS Hovmoller - Wind Stress

Figure 11

The two westerly wind bursts shown in red in the western equatorial Pacific in 2014 are associated with the strong downwelling Kelvin wave that formed at the time. (See the post ENSO Basics: Westerly Wind Bursts Initiate an El Niño.)  Throughout both 2002 and 2009, there were series of westerly wind bursts in the western equatorial Pacific, with stronger ones later in the year.

Update:  We still haven’t had any strong westerly wind bursts to help strengthen the El Niño in 2014.

Figure 12 presents the Hovmollers of wind stress anomalies…just a different perspective.  But positive wind stress anomalies, at the low end of the color-coded scale, are actually a weakening of the trade winds, not a reversal.

12 GODAS Hovmoller - Wind Stress Anomalies

Figure 12

Other than the two westerly wind bursts at the beginning of the year, the western equatorial Pacific has been quiet this year compared to 2002 and 2009.

NOTE: There are a number of wind stress-related images on meteorological websites.  Always check to see if they’re presenting absolute values or anomalies.

And Figure 13 presents the Hovmollers of sea surface temperature anomalies. Unfortunately, the Hovmoller of sea surface temperature anomalies is delayed a few weeks. But as we’ve seen in the comparison graphs in Figure 2, the sea surface temperature anomalies of the NINO3.4 region in 2014 are behind those of 2002 and 2009, but in the eastern equatorial Pacific, the sea surface temperature anomalies this year in the NINO1+2 region had been well above those in our two reference years.

13 GODAS Hovmoller - Sea Surface Temp Anomalies

Figure 13

Update:  I’ve highlighted the longitudes of the NINO3.4 region on the Hovmoller for 2014.  Note how something curious happened this year.  The sea surface temperature anomalies warmed to the east and to the west of the NINO3.4 region.  The equatorial Pacific was releasing more heat than normal this year into the atmosphere, just not in the NINO3.4 region, which is the region NOAA uses for its “official” reference.


What’ll happen in 2015 to bring us into the 2015/16 ENSO season? Will the present El Niño conditions drop back to ENSO neutral and then reform into El Niño conditions by the boreal summer (austral winter) as NOAA’s CFS models forecast?  See Figure 14.

14 NCEP CFS Forecasts

Figure 14

Will El Niño conditions persist through the boreal summer 2015 as predicted by the dynamic models in the IRI/CPC plume?  Or will there be ENSO neutral conditions in the spring and summer of 2015 as forecast by the statistical models? See Figure 15.

15 IRI-CPC Forecasts

Figure 15

What about the strengthening cool sea surface temperatures off the west coast of South America? See Figure 16, which is the most current cell from the CMC sea surface temperature anomaly animation here.  Will they migrate into the equatorial Pacific and counteract the warm water from the last downwelling Kelvin wave and lead the tropical Pacific into a La Niña?

16 - 2015010500_054_G6_global_I_SEASON_tm@lg@sd_000

Figure 16

What’s your prediction?  Too bad Carnac the Magnificent (<– link to Sis-Boom-Bah joke.) isn’t around to help.




And for additional introductory discussions of El Niño processes see:


My ebook Who Turned on the Heat? goes into a tremendous amount of detail to explain El Niño and La Niña processes and the long-term aftereffects of strong El Niño events.  Who Turned on the Heat? weighs in at a whopping 550+ pages, about 110,000+ words. It contains somewhere in the neighborhood of 380 color illustrations. In pdf form, it’s about 23MB. It includes links to more than a dozen animations, which allow the reader to view ENSO processes and the interactions between variables.

I’ve lowered the price of Who Turned on the Heat? from U.S.$8.00 to U.S.$5.00.  A free preview in pdf format is here.  The preview includes the Table of Contents, the Introduction, the first half of section 1 (which was provided complete in the post here), a discussion of the cover, and the Closing. Take a run through the Table of Contents.  It is a very-detailed and well-illustrated book—using data from the real world, not models of a virtual world. Who Turned on the Heat? is only available in pdf format…and will only be available in that format.  Click here to purchase a copy.

My sincerest thanks to everyone who has purchased a copy of Who Turned on the Heat? this year as a result of this series.  I learned a lot preparing the book.  I hope you’ve learned a lot, too, reading it.

About Bob Tisdale

Research interest: the long-term aftereffects of El Niño and La Nina events on global sea surface temperature and ocean heat content. Author of the ebook Who Turned on the Heat? and regular contributor at WattsUpWithThat.
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19 Responses to Final – The 2014/15 El Niño – Part 22 – January 2015 Update – You Make the Forecasts for the 2015/16 Season

  1. Sig Silber says:

    I am fairly certain that this warm event will not be recorded as an El Nino. My reasoning is essentially the same as yours combined with the duration requirement for El Nino conditions to be categorized as an El Nino. I have written up my assessment here.

    I do not have a good feel for what next year might be like. The conditions for an El Nino with respect to the PDO have possibly become more favorable. So I would not rule out a strong El Nino soon. But if your theory is correct, and I think it is, that El Nino’s dissipate heat from the ocean into the atmosphere, then we may have to wait a year or two for the Warm Pool to become sufficiently recharged to start the process over again.

    We may see more activity in the Indian Ocean prior to the action returning to the Central Pacific.

    Thanks for all that you do.

  2. Thanks, Bob. An interesting El Niño story.
    I hope a new El Niño will develop in 2015 and keep the hurricanes in check.

  3. Greg Goodman says:

    Hi Bob, I think you have read much more than I have on the official ENSO doctrine so perhaps you can explain where this idea of “downwelling Kelin wave” comes from.

    As I understand it, a Kelvin wave is oceanic solitron wave, which is bounded by the equator.

    Such waves are essentially gravitational, surface waves. Soliton waves are non-dispersive waves that are bounded on at least one side by a physical boundary. By some curious effects of the convergence of correolis driven ocean gyres at the equator, the equator acts as such a barrier and ensures that Kelvin waves can only propagate in a west-east direction across the Pacific and then potenitally run up the west coast of US, which provides a real physical boundary.

    It follows that the idea of a “downwelling Kelvin wave” is an oxymoron. It simply is not possible within the definition of what a Kelvin wave is.

    I would also point out that the “wave” in question is not even a physical body of warm water but an “anomaly wave”.

    Now, I’m sure you did not make this all up yourself but I’d like to know where the idea comes from and how it can be called a Kelvin wave.

    Thanks for any light you can shed.

    Best, Greg.

  4. Bob Tisdale says:

    Hi Greg. I seem to recall a similar question from you sometime over the past year over at WUWT. And I seem to recall answering your question and providing links to a paper that should have answered your questions. Do you recall what thread at WUWT that was?

    If not, I suspect you’ll find your answers in general discussions of the delayed oscillator theory and papers cited therein.

  5. Bob Tisdale says:

    Greg Goodman says: “Such waves are essentially gravitational, surface waves.”

    Let’s think about your statement for a second. A westerly wind burst in the western equatorial Pacific excites a long wave of warm water that travels eastward along the equator: an equatorial Kelvin wave. That wave of warm water would logically cause a temporary increase in sea level as it traveled eastward. As a result, it would push down on the thermocline as it traveled east, would it not?

  6. Greg Goodman says:

    Thanks for the replies Bob. I did ask a similar question as you recall, but the torrent of garbage comments on WUWT means I probably did not see you answer. I don’t recall reading it but probably just lost track of the question.

    Please note that “surface wave” does not have to be the ocean surface, it applies equally well the the density change at the thermocline. Same physics applies as is the case for tidal waves which can also occur on the thermocline but with much longer periods due to the small density difference. Your last animation above looks a lot like that to me and has about the right time-scale but that’s just an impression.

    Here’s nice diagram but sadly no vertical scale is given:

    There is much talk of vertical “Kelvin” waves both in atmosphere and oceans but this is a misnomer since when the waves propagate in a vertical direction they become dispersive ( ie dissipate their energy ) and are thus no longer Kelvin waves by definition. When I was taught science, using precise and accurate terminology was deemed essential. Now it seems to be regarded as old-fashioned and quaint.

    It seems that there is some confusion between this and Rosby waves and the interaction of the two. Rosby waves propagate east to west a bit like the bow-wave of a boat and cause a reflection when they hit the western boundary of the Pacific. This disturbance can then be focused by Coriolis forces and turn into an eastward moving Kelvin wave. It all gets very complicated with huge approximations and simplifications being applied to solve the maths. Careless terminology does not help.

    You may find this interesting. The graphs in Delayed Oscillator Theory section match some of the animations you have posted before that I studied closely.

    That wave of warm water would logically cause a temporary increase in sea level as it traveled eastward. As a result, it would push down on the thermocline as it traveled east, would it not?

    It causes a rise in sea level because it is warmer and lighter and floats but yes, it would also depress the thermocline. The problem in that idea is that the WPWP is only about 15-20cm higher that average yet the depression in the thermocline is around 25 to 50 metres .

    On the face of it that to rule it out as an explanation, though there may be a way resuscitate it.

    My thinking is that effects of this depth can only be accounted for by massive meridional displacement of water which is tidally driven. The westward flow that gets focused into pulses of warm water in the form of Kelvin waves is the most visible effect but is not the underlying cause.

    It would be very informative to see your final animation there for +/-5 and +/-10 deg as well as the equator and over about 18months, since that is time scale of these movements. Then we may get a better idea of how the thermocline is moving. Do you know whether such animations are available?

  7. Bob Tisdale says:

    Greg says: “It would be very informative to see your final animation there for +/-5 and +/-10 deg as well as the equator and over about 18months, since that is time scale of these movements. Then we may get a better idea of how the thermocline is moving. Do you know whether such animations are available?”

    We? I already have a good idea of how the thermocline is moving, but you may wish to see the “Pacific Y-Z Animations” from NOAA here:
    You’ll note that the Kelvin waves are focused on the equator, while the Rossby waves are off the equator 5N-10N, and sometimes 10S-5S.
    Also see the NOAA Multi-Ocean-Reanalysis website for individual monthly plots from a number of reanalyses:
    You’d have to create the animations yourself.

  8. Werner Kohl says:

    Hello Bob,
    thanks alot for this very interesting and informative series.

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  11. Skeptikal says:

    Hi Bob,

    Too bad the 2014 El Niño didn’t work out for you. Hope you have better luck in 2015.

  12. Bob Tisdale says:

    That’s an odd comment, Skeptikal. Everything worked out just fine for me in 2014. I wasn’t making predictions. I only reported on what was happening and why.

    I also sold a lot of books as a result of this series. As I just said, everything worked out just fine for me in 2014. So much so, I don’t have to return to work next month. I can finish writing my next book.

  13. Greg says:

    We? I already have a good idea of how the thermocline is moving, but you may wish to see the “Pacific Y-Z Animations” from NOAA here:

    Thanks for the link Bob, but I don’t see how I cam get 3D data out of a series of 2D animations. This needs to be processed from data directly into a 3D anim. It’s a little surprising no one with access to the data has done that.

    There was one very proffessional 3D animation from NOAA , IRRC, but it covered barely one year.

    One thing you did not comment on is how a hieght difference of about 15-20cm in WPWP is reckonned to “flow” back by gravity yet depresses the thermocline by 20 metres.

    Also it does not have a surface height increase of 20m , so it is not the weight of the bluk of less dense water that is depressing the thermocline. It just does not add up.

    The only way I can see this happenning is if it is in fact hte thermocline that moves and the warm surface water flows in to fill the gap. That flow may get focused into Kelvin waves in the W-E direction. In the other direction it could form a dispersive wave. Rossy waves are similar to the bow wave of a boat.

    Are you aware of any explanations of how 20cm of water can “flow” back in a wave 20m deep?!

    (Glad you manage to a little income off your e-books.)

  14. Skeptikal says:

    All’s well that ends well…. enjoy!

    I’ll make a prediction for you…

    2015 – La Nada
    2016 – La Nina

  15. Bob Tisdale says:

    Greg, an idea for you. Stop by the NOAA ENSO blog and ask them to do a post about equatorial Kelvin waves.

  16. Greg says:

    Thanks for the suggestion Bob but I have other things I’m more interested in.

    You’re a sceptic and this is your specialist subject yet you seem to have bought into a lot of the mainstream explanations about ENSO. You’re well read on this subject and I thought you may have an answer.. If you don’t have an explanation of how a 20cm height excess can aclaimedly “flow back” by gravity and cause a 20m depression in the thermocline without itself being 20m above normal surface, maybe you should asking NOAA yourself. Or at least be a little more sceptical.

    I think you had a key insight about ENSO not being a symmetric “oscillation” by questioning the orthodoxy. Don’t stop questioning everything you read.

    regards, Greg.

  17. Bob Tisdale says:

    Greg, I still don’t have any problem with a multiple meter depression of the thermocline during a downweling Kelvin wave being associated with a 20cm sea height anomaly, especially when there appear to be warmer-than-normal waters being fed from off the equator to the equator.


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